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15 Year Old Autistic Teen Tasered, Police Say They Had No Choice

September 21st 2007 19:12
There should be a law that makes it necessary that any officer who tasers someone 'in the line of duty' be tasered for a similarly equal duration as he or she performed.

The reasoning for this is simple: To make them think before they act, so that they don’t just dish out the excessive force or act in an intimidating manner then claim innocence when the ‘suspect’ gets out of control.

Because seriously, when a 15 year old autistic boy is tasered you know someone didn’t do his job right.

She said her son would have followed deputies' directions if he hadn't felt threatened. "This was a very aggressive response," she said. She said her son "didn't have any weapon on him. He didn't even have a pencil."


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Comment by Steve 3

September 22nd 2007 13:40
So by that logic/reasoning, would any police officer who shot someone in the line of duty also be required to be shot themselves?

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2007 13:45
No, becuase it isn't the same logic. The point of tasering is to subdue the suspect however unnecessarily creating situations that warrant tasering is essentially excessive foce.

On the other hand with firearms the situation is alot more extreme, a police officer can only use it when confronted with a situation where tasering will not help, for instance if the suspect is also armed with a handgun.

If the issue of tasering is solved then by default there won't be the need for a hand gun. If theres a need for the hand gun then the taser would never have had a place in the situation to begin with hence you cannot relate the two.

Besides, using excessive force by way of shooting when there is no need to usually ends up with the cop getting the axe. With tasers a sort of corporal punishment would be more befitting and intimidating.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 22nd 2007 16:31
Ahmed, you little rabble-rouser you. There you go, omitting info again to get people pissed off.

According to the article, the kid ran out into busy traffic and the cop tasered him to stop him from running and likely being hit by a car. No evil intent there.

Come on now.


Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2007 16:37
Also according to the article he was autistic and would not comply to aggressive behaviour.

The police officer was negligent in his behaviour because he intimidated the boy which is what caused him to run out in front of traffic.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 22nd 2007 16:47
Stop skimming, Ahmed. The mother said that tasering the kid was aggressive behavior, not that the cops scared him out into traffic. The mother wasn't on the scene until after the cops got him out of traffic.

According to the article, the kid shouted something and ran out into traffic when he saw a cop approaching.

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2007 16:51
You wonder how the cop would be approaching to make the kid run the way he did eh?

You don't get shitlike this happening in Australia, I'd hazzard to say it isn't just bad luck the US police force keeps getting slammed for its behaviour.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 22nd 2007 17:17
The kid is autistic. The kid ran away from the counseling center because he didn't want to go. Are you suggesting that the counselors at the center or the kid's parents acted threateningly, to make him run away from them initially?

Ahmed, all countries have their share of dirtbags, Australia included. No one country has a monopoly on dirtbags.

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2007 17:23
I think the US has, as they say 'more than its fair share'.

See heres the thing, he didn't want to go to the counselling center so he ran away, thats fair enough. Why would he run away from the police officer?

We are both just second guessing here, but given hismother said he wouldn't have ran if he didn't feel intimidated holds more weight than what the police might want to have you believe.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 22nd 2007 17:56
Per capita? Per square mile? If you compared the number of dirtbags per country in terms of area, taking into account differences in population figures, are you claiming that the U.S., comprised as we are of people from all over the world, has the most dirtbags? On what facts do you base this assumption?

I agree that we are both second guessing re: the autistic kid..but it stands to reason that if someone had run away from something initially he would continue to run away when approached. I wonder what would have happened if his mother had approached him first? Had she not been able to stop him by speaking to him (which she was unable to do at the center) how would she have stopped him from running into traffic, I wonder?

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2007 18:00
Well the thing is, we have little to no reports of gun related crimes, or highschool massacres or anything to that effect.

Even if we are going to talk about it population wise, we might eb smaller, but the differences is large when you look at it this way: America has a massive gun control problem, Australia doesn't (just an example).

I'm not saying Americans are bad, I'm just saying theres a lot of management issues with your government.


The kids autistic, it isn't at all relevent what would have happened if it was his mother and not a cop. The fact of the matter is the boy ran away from the cop because he felt threatened. He wouldn't feel threatened unless he had reason to feel threatened and it would be very unlikely that he saw a cop walking to him so he decided to up and run.

If thats the case then fair enough, though somehow I don't think it is, especially considering what his mother said.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 22nd 2007 18:18
Well, I wouldn't call the kid's mother exactly an impartial party.

What I'm trying to say is that not all American cops are megalomaniacal guerrillas that run around tasering kids for enjoyment.

The kid was running away from the cop, into traffic. Several cars swerved to avoid hitting him. The cop tasered the kid to prevent him from running any further and maybe getting killed.

It was a decision that had to be made and enacted in seconds to avoid injury. Maybe if the cop had had more time to think, he could have come up with a better solution. I honestly don't think this cop was out to taser a kid for kicks.

On an unrelated note, I got way too caught up in the link to The Iranian that you gave me, so it'll be awhile till I get back on the Bush speech issue. I'm going after a certain hatemonger on orble first with some of the quotes and links I picked up there...thanks for the link.

Comment by Ahmed

September 22nd 2007 18:41
I'm not saying that *all* american cops are like that, I just personally think there is a lot of management problems with various levels of government up in the US causing problems.

Well hopefully the cop wasn't out to taser the kid just for fun, I think he was just negligent and caused the kid to do what he did so that tasering became the only option.

erm, as for the hate monger, if it's her or him then save yourself the trouble, you aint getting no where with them. Especially if it' sthe her version, she has issues, and I mean that, thinks smoking has no health risks and that any form of cultural diversity is a bad thing. She believes the democrats are out to destroy the US government and has linked and compared them to terrorist organizations. I honestly think she's a satirist but who am I to say?

Comment by Damo

September 23rd 2007 01:25
Ahmed
Sorry but you left another hole in a story and another truck drove through it. Now the story about you and not the tasering.

Personally I think if you wish to make a point you should get the whole story and present it from a neutral viewpoint. Have a little faith in peoples ability to understand.

Sometimes facts come out that tell another story and you will be forced to either backflip or lose credibility.

That is all I want to say.

Comment by Ahmed

September 23rd 2007 04:34
What hole woud that be damo?

Unlike last time I'm not looking to intimidate, but rather get reality across.

Comment by Damo

September 24th 2007 02:12
Ahmed

The argument of making Taser useage more accountible is valid. Battons have rules of safe use for the police etc.

However the example you site had missing information.
Additional information caste doubt on whether this was a case of Taser abuse or a policeman trying to save a person from a worse injury. Those that are against your argument have found the fatal flaw and turned it against you.

Hence: bad example as the evidence is not clear cut.

If you had used the 'Don't Tase me BRO,' example you would have had a much better position to defend.

The question of taser use or abuse now becomes a side show to every other issue related to police law enforcement.

That is only my viewpoint and you do have the right to reject it.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 25th 2007 20:00
Not to worry, Ahmed. I'm arming myself with knowledge for future battles with the hatemongers...

Comment by Ahmed

September 25th 2007 20:15
Damo, I'll keep that in mind next time.

D, erm, I hope (for your sake) said hate mongers aren't the same type of people I seem to come into frequent contact with.

Comment by D. Armenta

September 26th 2007 02:24

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